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Zach Attack
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So be it! I'll give you
guys two more weeks. But don't get it into your heads that'll
I'll keep extending until eternity because it's not true! 
Nov. 14 is now the deadline.
Good
luck!
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Martin
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003
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Thanks man! It will help a
lot. I finished my stuff but it needs some more tweaks so the
maps will be better. A lot
better!
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ack
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003
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This thread has been very
quiet for over 10 days now.  Is this thing
still happening? I am REALLY looking forward to eventually
playing whatever is contributed, so I hope you people are
sending in your maps.
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Schabbs
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003
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Hopefully it's because the
deadline for the levels has been extended to Nov 14.
To those who are contributing please send in your
completed levels to Ariel by that time. 
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Arielus
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003
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Alright people! It's
already Nov. 14th here and in exactly 5 hours it'll be Nov.
15th. So far, 5 people have sent me their 3-level sets, and a
6th wolfer has submitted only one level. His responsibilites
made it impossible for him to make 3 maps, and as he
understood something was better than nothing, he decided to
keep his word and deliver what he had been able to complete.
If you add my 3-level set, then it's 19 maps so far. I
believe it is a nice number of levels, though also a little
small if we take into account all the people who originally
wrote their names down on the participants' list. Two of the 5
people I've mentioned above are not really confirmed
participants, they decided to remain silent and work on their
levels without having the obligation to. In other words, they
didn't rush their mouth at the very beginning and sent me
their maps when they were ready, but without having any
"moral" obligation to do so. So, we are having 6 maps which we
wouldn't have originally had, thanks to these two great
wolfers. I hope I'm explaining things clearly here... Count
'em for yourselves, and if you forget about the wolfer who
sent only one level, you'll see that 8 (eight!) people have
submitted nothing so far.
Oh, well... I just wanted to
say that I'll wait until it's Nov. 15th here and then send
everything to the judges... As I've always said, I just hope a
good compilation add-on gets built outta this.
Ariel.
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Chris
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003
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mmm bring on the judging and releasing of this
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Considering each player was
assigned an opening / closing level; and that the original
game has 6 episodes - it's safe to say that the amount of
contestants that decided to submit their packs would be the
PERFECT number for a compilation (having 3 levels [one set]
per episode)! I guess you can always throw that 1 extra level
into a secret level of one of the episodes; with the
permission of the person who made that episode of course.
This is sounding really good man! I can't wait to see
which people submitted their levels, what kind of styles/ideas
they used, and which ones came up on top from the judge's
perspectives. If anyone deserves to win this contest though,
it's definately you Ariel (especially for your help in making
Zach's contest a reality)! Good luck to all of you who
participated; I'm anxiously awaiting to play and see the
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Arielus
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003
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Done. All the 3-level sets
have been sent to the judges inside pairs of GAMEMAPS.WL6
& MAPHEAD.WL6 files. Let the judging begin, fellows.
Thanks for those words, Chris; though I wouldn't vote
for me if I were you... I couldn't help playing the others'
maps, and believe me: There are many great maps here. The
judges will have a difficult task - no doubt about
it!
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Zach Attack
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003
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Goddamn Chris. Are you
trying to get a rise
out of me? Seriously... "thanks for making Zach's contest a
reality." Well yeah I guess all those people that came before
Ariel joined the team were fake huh?
Anyways... I knew
this was going to happen.
Ariel has sent us me the
maps and I'll be juding them tommorrow.
Thank you for
all the people that took the time and labor to create the maps
and make this a reality. Much appreciated. As for the
others... geez...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003
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Zach Attack
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003
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Absolutely. There will be a
compilation of all the levels after the
judging.
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Arielus
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003
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Erhh... I just wanted to
say that I may have sounded a little bit too 'unbearable' in
my latest posts here; I've noticed so and I'd like to say it
hasn't actually been my intention. I suppose I took this
contest somehow too seriously from the very beginning, and
specially when I was assigned the 'middle man' job; I couldn't
help keep thinking that we would get tons and tons of levels.
That was my real hope indeed, and I guess I never considered
the possibility of so many people stepping away.
I
cannot blame anybody, seriously. I am still a little angry at
myself for not having submitted a thing for Eric Vaughn's
contest early this year, even though the only one who
participated there was Ack. I had said I would do it and the
fact of having had to step away really bothered me... Because
of that, I put all my heart in this one, I wouldn't miss it
for anything in the world... That's the way I feel things... I
don't know... I simply hate saying I'm gonna do something and
then end up doing nothing. It's a moral question... I don't
know... I just believe one's word is very important, for I
don't like at all when people do not trust my credibilty. Oh
well... That is just me...
No doubt: Real life comes
before Wolf. I can totally understand that
non-computer-related obligations can make you have to leave
out the computer-related ones. I know that because that is
actually what happened to me during Eric's competition.
So, that's all. Sorry if I sounded aggressive, or
offensive; as I said, I didn't mean to. Anyway, now that the
judges have received the contributions, it won't be long until
we finally know the event's results, and I'm glad for that.
Ariel.
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ack
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003
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I think my South American
friend is being a little hard on himself. There is a
difference between being unbearable and passionate. We call
ourselves 'die hard wolfers' for a reason - we are die hards!
Since there is a lot of talent in this community, I, like
many, was looking forward to playing some of the best levels
that the mappers had to offer. But, if people can't be
bothered to keep their word, what can you do? I'm sure we will
hear our fair share of lame excuses, but since Zach announced
this contest on the 15th of September, that has given everyone
practially two months. Three maps in two months? I think that
anyone who put in an effort to run this contest or to enter
has a right to be a little upset. I felt like I wasted my time
entering Eric's contest and I obviously wasted my time (to
some degree) sending in three maps for this one (I was one of
the mystery contestants). Needless to say, I am going to think
twice before doing this again.
Fool me once, shame on
you
Fool me twice, shame on me.
I do want to thank
the five other guys who sent in their maps. Also want to thank
Zach for attempting this in the first place.
Peace
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Chris
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003
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Sorry Zach, I didn't
realize my comment could have been taken offensively; but all
I really meant was that all the messages on this board can be
a piece of inspiration for others to join (the comments by
Ariel, Schabbs, ack, etc.). Not only that, many people have
also talked to me about the contest through other methods
alot, or have posted news related stuff about it elsewhere -
with hopes to recruit more people. I'm just really impressed
with the spirit some people have put forth... and you've
obviously done a great job putting all this together Zach; I
didn't mean to take anything away from you.
Well, ack,
maybe you're not too overjoyed from submitting your levels for
this contest (and the one by Eric Vaughn); but I certainly am
- and I'm sure there are others that feel the same way I do
about your work. You know, I've always dreamed of having a
6-episode set with people like you, Arielus, Jack Ryerson,
Gary Ragland, myself, and someone else (perhaps B.J. Rowan?)
all doing an episode for it. So far, this is the closest thing
I've ever come across to that vision; and even though all 6
sets will only have 3 levels - this contest still really
excites me.
As you've might have figured out by now,
I've also submitted 3 levels. They're not entirely new (some
were lost Chokage creations or experiments that I just never
got around to finishing), but this contest has given me the
inspiration to going back and making them closer to what I
always wanted from them; so I'm really thankful to have had
the ambition and oppurtunity to do something like this (with
some of my favorite level makers too; sweet!). Hopefully my
contribution will be enough to keep this contest as unique and
interesting as a 3-level contest could be; but if they're
not... you can always just keep playing around with the other
5 great sets! Have fun!
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Joe
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003
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Wow..
Everything
that has been posted here as of late has taken me as quite
touching. I feel the guilt swelling up in me for not doing as
much as I should have, having not contributed as much as all
the other Wolfers. I suppose maybe I should not have joined up
in the first place with this contest. Yet I did enjoy the work
I did, though how little was done.
Ariel, you are
being a bit rough on yourself. Only a bit, though. But
seriously: You shouldn't stack so much of this on yourself.
You actually contributed three maps and you were the
'middle-man.' That's far more than I did, and you should be
proud of yourself. I'm sure all the other Wolfers are proud of
you.
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Zach Attack
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003
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Yeah I really had a feeling
this was going to be big. What can I say? I mean, you can't
force people to do it... can you? (hm..... lol jk). But
yeah... bummer man. I'm sorry if I was immature to Chris or
Ariel. Ariel did certainly add to the spirit and the
excitement (especially with his ideas) which is part of the
reason I felt this was going to be big.
I agree with
Ack... I mean... almost a month and a half for 3 maps...
c'mon. I bet there are no lameass excuses because that's a
long time.
Yeah, Ariel don't be hard on yourself. You
did nothing wrong.
And Ack, the fact that the maps
exist is awesome. If you hadn't created the maps they wouldn't
be around for people to enjoy right? So you shouldn't act like
it was a waste of time because, really, the maps exist because
of this.
It's a frikin shame this has to feel like a
funeral. 
So Ariel, who were the people who submitted
the maps? I just need to know for the
credits.
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ack
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003
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@ Zach - Hey man, I agree
with you across the board aside from one thing. I said it was
a waste of time - ***to some degree*** Your contest was worth
entering and I am glad that I did and I am really glad that a
few other guys threw in their maps as well. My frustration is
the same as yours... people not keeping their word, which was
the basis of my 'waste of time' comment. Don't want you to
think that I have a bad attitude 
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Woah...some tension in
here. But two can play that game. Ok...the situation is as
follows. I was late. I haven't made anything. I haven't had
the time. You can take that as a lame-ass excuse. Hate me.
Despise me. Boycot me. Do whatever you may please. Frankly, I
don't really give a rat's ass what your opinions may be. I
couldn't make it. Simple. From where I stand, I don't need a
friggin' reason, 'cuz simply none of them will be accepted.
And that's fine. Good words for the contest: T'was a good
idea. Nice it worked out. Just not for me.
Enjoy.
Tvp Out.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003
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Hey-hey, now.. Nobody is
pointing fingers at anyone, here. Really, now.. That outburst
wasn't entirely nececary. I mean, I messed up, too, but I'm
not angry with anyone but myself because of it. You'd be
amazed what five minutes will do while working on a map, and
you know as well as I that we ALL had plenty of time to do
this. I can't say that anyone absolutely needed to finish
anything, I mean.. this is just a game. Nobody should be
worked up at all. All in all, tension or not, it is still
merely a game. Nobody needs to be a sore loser because they
didn't get to the board in time, if you understand my
analogy.
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Martin
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003
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Hey Judges... is anything
going on there? How is the judging going? When we will see the
results? Is Map Making Mania Melee active? Hmm. I haven't
heard anything lately, so... ya know .
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Arielus
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004
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Alright people... There's
some news concerning our event here. On another thread, some
days ago, I posted a series of e-mails I had been sharing with
the judges, but specially with Zach. I'm sure many of you
must've come across that thread and read about the current
situation. Ok, there's some more I believe those of you
wondering about the Map Making Mania Melée might be interested
in knowing. Just some moments ago, I sent an e-mail to all the
three judges again, and this is exactly what it said:
Dear Judges,
Hello there, I hope you all
are fine. Listen, I would like to finish off my job as the
contest's 'middle man', and in order to do that, I've prepared
a package for you. This, in no way, is something to rush you;
it is something only to conclude my task. I feel the need to
conclude what I started - that's all. I will do this and then
let you work freely from now on...
Onto this very
e-mail, I've attached a file called 'CONTEST.ZIP'. Inside of
it, you will find several things. Each of you should only see
these things if you are completely done with your
corresponding judging process, and not before. At the moment I
am writing this, I know you, Brian, have finished yours; but I
don't know whether you, Dan and Zach, have. So, please,
proceed only if you are done like Brian is.
Alright,
first... There are 3 text files which will let you know
exactly what each of you judged. You will see how I arranged
the maps for each of you, and who made each of those maps. I
thought each of you might find it interesting to know exactly
the way in which the other two judges played; so well, there
you go...
Second: There is a file called '[ All The
Ingredients ].ZIP'. This file contains a GAMEMAPS.WL6 &
MAPHEAD.WL6 pair of files, along with another text file.
Details about everything are included within the mentioned
text file, so please, make sure you read it.
That is
all. Once more: All this is not something to rush you, but
something to finish off my responsibility and let you go on
freely. I hope you can download 'CONTEST.ZIP' correctly.
It's all up to you now. Bye!
Ariel.
There. I guess I need not explain much, right? I
mean, everything is on the mail, isn't it? To conclude, I
would only like to say that I am sorry if I behaved too
unbearably about this whole event. I suppose I put way too
much passion into it... Anyway, I hope I've been somehow
useful, and in a way contributed to a better Map Making Mania
Melée. My intentions were always the best.
Ariel.
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